CD8(+) and CD8(-) T cell lines expressing the same antigen-specific receptor [the 2C T cell receptor (TCR)] were compared for ability to bind soluble peptide-MHC and to lyse target cells. The 2C TCR on CD8(-) cells bound a syngeneic MHC (K(b+))-peptide complex 10-100 times less well than the same TCR on CD8(+) cells, and the CD8(-) 2C cells lysed target cells presenting this complex very poorly. Surprisingly, however, the CD8(-) cells differed little from CD8(+) cells in ability to bind an allogeneic MHC (L(d+))-peptide complex and to lyse target cells presenting this complex. The CD8(+)/CD8(-) difference provided an opportunity to estimate how long TCR engagements with peptide-MHC have to persist to initiate the cytolytic T cell response.